Bionic Commando ([info]radiumx) wrote,
@ 2003-05-27 01:27:00
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Current mood: cynical

I'd like to lay to rest the subject of alcoholism.
Main Entry: al·co·hol·ism
Pronunciation: 'al-k&-"ho-"li-z&m, -k&-h&-
Function: noun
Date: 1860
1 : continued excessive or compulsive use of alcoholic drinks
2 : poisoning by alcohol; especially : a complex chronic psychological and nutritional disorder associated with excessive and usually compulsive drinking

First of all, let's look at this definition from Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary shall we?

1) "Excessive or compulsive use of alcoholic drinks". I neither use excessive amounts of alcohol, nor feel compelled in any way to use it. My use of alcohol is my privilege and my right as a 21 year old citizen of the state of California, and I do so by choice with the full knowledge of its side effects and potential dangers. I have been sick once from alcohol, six months ago on New Years' Eve, and consider that event a valuable learning experience that taught me my tolerance limit and the sensation of being ill from too much booze - a sensation i do not enjoy and pragmatically refuse to allow myself to experience again.

2) "poisoning by alcohol; especially : a complex chronic psychological and nutritional disorder associated with excessive and usually compulsive drinking"

Complex implies that the problem is not as simple as you fuckstick armchair psychologists seem to think it is. Frank is the only person I know of who is either certifiably qualified or has the proper experience to even begin to make a judgement call on this situation, and his opinion is the ONLY one I'd consider listening to because, frankly, I think the rest of you are full of shit. It's not a manner of "wanting to listen" it's a matter of "You're talking out of your ass". I, and others see these accusations of alcoholism as another bullet in your guns, solely for the purpose of making me look bad. "Justin, you have issues! Here they are... A, B, C, and you're an alcoholic!" I'm not afraid to name names, and I will right now say that Cynthia is the one who started this and it's been an issue between us for aeons.

I can name other people who drink far more than I do, on a much more frequent basis. People you all know, perhaps even people who have been accusing me anonymously on this journal.

My personal definition of an alcoholic is someone whose use of alcohol detrimentally affects their life, or the lives of others as a result of its intoxicating effects. My consumption of alcohol occasionally during the weekdays (technically my weekNIGHTS - both my roommates can testify I've never had more than a Jack-cocktail, hard lemonade, or a beer (occasionally two, if I can stand that many and it's quality)) has never impaired my job, my health, or any other aspect of my life beyond occasionally being unable to drive places because I'd rather not get pulled over on a DUI thank you very fucking much. I don't beat my wife or kids, I don't get in bar brawls, I don't yell at the neighbors, puke in the street, or for chrissakes even walk around in public intoxicated. ONE TIME the security guard at the apartment saw me carrying a bottle of Bass to-and-from my car (fetching my laptop) and let me know I wasn't allowed to carry beer around in public - even though it was past 10:00 pm. We had a good laugh about it.

Yes, I talk about alcohol. I enjoy good beer, good wine, good mixed drinks, and the pleasant feeling of a perfect buzz. I drink plenty of water and eat plenty of food when I drink, so I don't wake up with a hangover, or vomit violently. As a matter of fact, I've never had a hangover that I've been aware of - any worse than the occasional case of drymouth.

I work with alcoholics. Frank works with alcoholics. Michael works with alcoholics. I would like to think I know the signs of alcoholism fairly well, as do my two co-workers, and I will tell you right now, that I am not an alcoholic and I never will be. I have too much respect for myself to allow something so stupid to happen, and it's that respect for myself that's allowing me to tell everyone unquestionably that this is a bullshit accusation with no foundation in reality.

This is my closure on this subject. I will regard any future references to my being an alcoholic as the trash-talk it is, and would hope that those of you who are able to think logically and aren't just out to rail me for whatever reason will also see the same.




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heh
[info]saturnalia22
2003-05-27 02:11 am UTC (link)
I'll drink to THAT!!!

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Re: heh
(Anonymous)
2003-05-27 03:31 pm UTC (link)
can I have some too? :)

-WarHawk

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[info]ladybug007
2003-05-27 02:24 am UTC (link)
Well, I would suppose you would know better than anyone. I have been in Alanon for almost 3 years now, and have chaired many a meeting. My father is an alcoholic, recovering allbeit and with almost 20 years of sobriety, but an alcoholic. So long as you know that it has never imparied your life, your judgement, or your ability to function. So long as you know that you could go without it no problem, without a second thought. So long as you know that you do not use it to aid you socially, or rely on it, you should be fine. You said earlier I believe that you work with recovering addicts, and that would mean you would know better than anyone what to watch out for. Take care of yourself, it sounds like you do.

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[info]starkewpie
2003-05-27 04:40 am UTC (link)
I, and others see these accusations of alcoholism as another bullet in your guns, solely for the purpose of making me look bad.

Exactly! Let it roll off your back. Be a duck! Quack quack!

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This is Brad.
(Anonymous)
2003-05-28 04:39 pm UTC (link)
I really didn't care to post on your livejournal, but since you felt like bringing this up, I'll throw my two cents in:

Drinking, by yourself, in the early afternoon, when you have work later IS NOT HEALTHY BEHAVIOR. I'm not even going to bother saying if it's related to alcoholism or not, but that is not something healthy, emotionally stable people do Justin. Just so you know, I'm bringing this up because it's behavior I'd like to see you stop doing for your own sake. Not to throw some petty insult. I don't joke about this shit.

And if you throw that, "You're not qualified to comment on this" stuff in my face, well, you're wrong. I *promise* I've spent more time around alcoholics than you have. And I'm not talking about the kinda who bother getting help for their problems, either.

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Re: This is Brad.
[info]radiumx
2003-05-29 01:59 am UTC (link)
see, it's not "early afternoon"... it's morning. Only for me, it's effectively nighttime. If you take it like a 9-5 job-

9am = 11pm
5pm = 7am

only I get off work at about 8:00. somedays, if i'm lucky. I generally get home around 10:00... which is my equivalent of 8pm at night. If I'm lucky, i get to sleep around 11 or 12... which is 9 or 10pm.

It's not "drinking before I have work" it's "drinking before I go to sleep". I'm drinking a beer or two before I go to bed - it's not like i'm even getting drunk.

Were I to sleep with a regular schedule, I'd most likely drink at the proper times. As it is, not sleeping properly has more adversely affected my life exponentially more than alcohol.

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[info]manicmike
2003-05-29 06:21 am UTC (link)
Its amazing how many people don't understand this concept. I got a call from my boss at noon today. The first thing he asks is whether or not he woke me up. Of course you woke me up you idiot. How would you like it if I called you at 2am?? But they still don't get it.

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Re: This is Brad.
(Anonymous)
2003-05-29 03:48 pm UTC (link)
Okay, you're not understanding to what I'm pointing to. You were drinking at 2:30 pm, PST. You had work that evening. Now by your analysis, you sound even worse. "I woke up and started drinking."

And for the record, in my opinion having a couple drinks to put yourself to sleep as often as you do is a *great* way to develop a dependency.

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Hrm
(Anonymous)
2003-05-29 05:22 pm UTC (link)
I don't wanna burn any bridges, but he is correct... drinking to make yourself sleep is the start of a bad habit...

-WarHawk

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Re: This is Brad.
[info]radiumx
2003-06-01 01:50 am UTC (link)
I'm not sure how having a beer and one of those jack-cocktail things eight hours before I have to leave for work is any kind of "worse". I barely even got buzzed, for god's sake.

And for the record, how would you, or anyone ELSE know how often i "have a couple drinks to put [my]self to sleep". I mentioned I do occasionally. You know how "occasionally" I do that? Once a month, at most.

I understand what you're pointing to. I drink neither frequently, irresponsibly, excessively, or for reasons other than physical enjoyment of the act of being slightly intoxicated.

What bothers me most about this is how farfetched it seems. I suppose if I knew as little about my personal life as you guys do, and backed up my guesses with hearsay from people who take delight in making me look bad, then yeah, I'd reach the same conclusions.

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